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	<description>James Sharpe's Google Summer of Code Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Calum</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like you have to open the capplet on each workpace individually.  So two related questions/comments:

* Hopefully it works as expected if you open the capplet on one workspace, then move it to a different workspace before closing it?  (Where 'as expected' means the selection updates to reflect the new workspace background, and I can set the new workspace background as well?)

* Is it possible to set hints to make the appearance capplet automatically appear "Always on Visible Workspace" (as I can do manually via its titlebar), and would it make sense to do so, to simplify changing multiple workspace backgrounds in one go?  (That's what happens on MacOS X, but for multiple monitors rather than different workspaces-- just like GNOME, different workspaces are stuck with the same background, in Leopard...)  Even if it's possible, would certainly need a little usability testing to see if people liked that, though, as it's obviously different to how every other app/window on the desktop behaves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like you have to open the capplet on each workpace individually.  So two related questions/comments:</p>
<p>* Hopefully it works as expected if you open the capplet on one workspace, then move it to a different workspace before closing it?  (Where &#8216;as expected&#8217; means the selection updates to reflect the new workspace background, and I can set the new workspace background as well?)</p>
<p>* Is it possible to set hints to make the appearance capplet automatically appear &#8220;Always on Visible Workspace&#8221; (as I can do manually via its titlebar), and would it make sense to do so, to simplify changing multiple workspace backgrounds in one go?  (That&#8217;s what happens on MacOS X, but for multiple monitors rather than different workspaces&#8211; just like GNOME, different workspaces are stuck with the same background, in Leopard&#8230;)  Even if it&#8217;s possible, would certainly need a little usability testing to see if people liked that, though, as it&#8217;s obviously different to how every other app/window on the desktop behaves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Mark</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a stud!  Thanks for getting this working!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a stud!  Thanks for getting this working!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by FunkyM</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>FunkyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work so far!

Please make sure to check this bug:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444320

Some notes:
- Add a checkbox "[] Apply to all workspaces"
- Make nautilus use a RGBA colormap and draw a transparent background in case of a composite manager taking over (see patches in the bug)
- Adjust/Fork the compiz wallpaper plugin to use the new background gconf keys instead of it's own to set the drawn wallpapers

This would allow multiple wallpapers on non-composited and composited environments and integrate with GNOME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work so far!</p>
<p>Please make sure to check this bug:<br />
<a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444320" rel="nofollow">http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444320</a></p>
<p>Some notes:<br />
- Add a checkbox &#8220;[] Apply to all workspaces&#8221;<br />
- Make nautilus use a RGBA colormap and draw a transparent background in case of a composite manager taking over (see patches in the bug)<br />
- Adjust/Fork the compiz wallpaper plugin to use the new background gconf keys instead of it&#8217;s own to set the drawn wallpapers</p>
<p>This would allow multiple wallpapers on non-composited and composited environments and integrate with GNOME.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by HDave</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>HDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work.  I hope it makes it into 2.24.

In the video, however, it looks like there is a small lag between the time you switch workspace and the time the wallpaper shows up.   Are you seeing this?

Also, I think it's really important to have this capability work with compiz.  I know it may not be easy, but compiz is one of the big drivers for people trying Ubuntu for the first time.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work.  I hope it makes it into 2.24.</p>
<p>In the video, however, it looks like there is a small lag between the time you switch workspace and the time the wallpaper shows up.   Are you seeing this?</p>
<p>Also, I think it&#8217;s really important to have this capability work with compiz.  I know it may not be easy, but compiz is one of the big drivers for people trying Ubuntu for the first time.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Jones Lee</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Jones Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@james sharpe: glad it's integrated solution. And let's hope it will make it for 2.24. Though I think you need some people lobbying for the code to be merged upstream early.

I have one suggestion for capplet GUI, IMHO  I do no think drop down box is a very good idea. What if the users has let's say 99 workspaces (this might lower number), the drop down list would list 99 workspaces?!! Imagine that! Well, so a check box Apply to all workspaces would be enough.

Besides, I think the capplet should have some kind of way to preview what bg is used on each workspace rather than let user change workspace by workspace to figure out only if someone can come up with a neat and simple GUI. Else just leave it as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james sharpe: glad it&#8217;s integrated solution. And let&#8217;s hope it will make it for 2.24. Though I think you need some people lobbying for the code to be merged upstream early.</p>
<p>I have one suggestion for capplet GUI, IMHO  I do no think drop down box is a very good idea. What if the users has let&#8217;s say 99 workspaces (this might lower number), the drop down list would list 99 workspaces?!! Imagine that! Well, so a check box Apply to all workspaces would be enough.</p>
<p>Besides, I think the capplet should have some kind of way to preview what bg is used on each workspace rather than let user change workspace by workspace to figure out only if someone can come up with a neat and simple GUI. Else just leave it as it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Pages tagged "patches"</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "patches"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by adamruss</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>adamruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do these patches work on current gnome? or git version only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do these patches work on current gnome? or git version only?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by pt</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>pt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work James 

Go Digg it
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Gnome_Different_Wallpapers_for_Workspaces_complete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work James </p>
<p>Go Digg it<br />
<a href="http://digg.com/linux_unix/Gnome_Different_Wallpapers_for_Workspaces_complete" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/linux_unix/Gnome_Different_Wallpapers_for_Workspaces_complete</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Johannes H. Jensen</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes H. Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work!

I love nona's suggestion about the mini view of the viewports + drag &#38; drop. As long as it scales well (follow the workspace switcher applet settings?), UI space shouldn't be an issue.

Keep it up! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work!</p>
<p>I love nona&#8217;s suggestion about the mini view of the viewports + drag &amp; drop. As long as it scales well (follow the workspace switcher applet settings?), UI space shouldn&#8217;t be an issue.</p>
<p>Keep it up! <img src='http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Workspace wallpaper backend patches and video by Karl Lattimer</title>
		<link>http://gsocblog.jsharpe.net/archives/15#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Lattimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that your method of implementation is a little flawed.

It appears that you change the background image after switching to a workspace. When in reality each workspace should have its own background image at all times, so that it works with compiz and any coming metacity compositor. 

Without a _real_ per workspace wallpaper then you're just re-implementing wallpapoz inside of gnome.

Surely there is a way of having a different background image associated with a workspace so that when you flip to cube it shows the correct wall papers? Compiz has some kind of plugin for this but that still isn't a proper solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that your method of implementation is a little flawed.</p>
<p>It appears that you change the background image after switching to a workspace. When in reality each workspace should have its own background image at all times, so that it works with compiz and any coming metacity compositor. </p>
<p>Without a _real_ per workspace wallpaper then you&#8217;re just re-implementing wallpapoz inside of gnome.</p>
<p>Surely there is a way of having a different background image associated with a workspace so that when you flip to cube it shows the correct wall papers? Compiz has some kind of plugin for this but that still isn&#8217;t a proper solution.</p>
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